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		<title>Comment on Applying Skepticism: Norwex Microfiber Cloths by Diane</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaskeptics.com/2011/06/08/applying-skepticism-norwex-microfiber-cloths/#comment-1287</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrew, with all due respect, the point is to get away from chemicals and paper towels.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, with all due respect, the point is to get away from chemicals and paper towels.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Applying Skepticism: Norwex Microfiber Cloths by Sherri Grebinoski</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaskeptics.com/2011/06/08/applying-skepticism-norwex-microfiber-cloths/#comment-1286</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sherri Grebinoski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 01:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have used Norwex for over a year now, I use all of the products including the toothbrush, my husband and I have been sick 1 time in a year, that tells me that the Norwex products are working.  I also have breathing problems so the no chemical thing is wonderful for me.  I do not have to spray window cleaner or other harmful chemicals in order to clean my home.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used Norwex for over a year now, I use all of the products including the toothbrush, my husband and I have been sick 1 time in a year, that tells me that the Norwex products are working.  I also have breathing problems so the no chemical thing is wonderful for me.  I do not have to spray window cleaner or other harmful chemicals in order to clean my home.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Applying Skepticism: Norwex Microfiber Cloths by Norwex : TheLittleTreeThatCould.com</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaskeptics.com/2011/06/08/applying-skepticism-norwex-microfiber-cloths/#comment-1257</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norwex : TheLittleTreeThatCould.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 03:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Against Norwex:  http://minnesotaskeptics.com/2011/06/08/applying-skepticism-norwex-microfiber-cloths/ [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Against Norwex:  <a href="http://minnesotaskeptics.com/2011/06/08/applying-skepticism-norwex-microfiber-cloths/" rel="nofollow">http://minnesotaskeptics.com/2011/06/08/applying-skepticism-norwex-microfiber-cloths/</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Applying Skepticism: Norwex Microfiber Cloths by Andrew</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaskeptics.com/2011/06/08/applying-skepticism-norwex-microfiber-cloths/#comment-1251</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 17:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I read the entire discussion. It seems that Benjamen asked some reasonable questions about Norwex, only to have a whole bunch of Norwex apologists jump in. Everyone who had good things to say about Norwex was a representative for the product. Hardly objective. 

It sounds like this is simply a microfiber cloth with some silver in it. Nothing shocking. Microfiber is quite nice for cleaning things, and silver kills germs. So would a paper towel and some Clorox. Hardly seems worth the premium cost of these things. (And the fact that everyone defending Norwex seemed to be someone selling the products... well, that tells me a lot.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I read the entire discussion. It seems that Benjamen asked some reasonable questions about Norwex, only to have a whole bunch of Norwex apologists jump in. Everyone who had good things to say about Norwex was a representative for the product. Hardly objective. </p>
<p>It sounds like this is simply a microfiber cloth with some silver in it. Nothing shocking. Microfiber is quite nice for cleaning things, and silver kills germs. So would a paper towel and some Clorox. Hardly seems worth the premium cost of these things. (And the fact that everyone defending Norwex seemed to be someone selling the products&#8230; well, that tells me a lot.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Applying Skepticism: Norwex Microfiber Cloths by braxtron</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaskeptics.com/2011/06/08/applying-skepticism-norwex-microfiber-cloths/#comment-1250</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[braxtron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 13:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, the luddite presence in this discussion is extreme. Thanks for putting anything on the Internet about Norwex besides the stupid anecdotal &quot;evidence&quot; that all of these house wives have nothing better to do than peddle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, the luddite presence in this discussion is extreme. Thanks for putting anything on the Internet about Norwex besides the stupid anecdotal &#8220;evidence&#8221; that all of these house wives have nothing better to do than peddle.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Applying Skepticism: Norwex Microfiber Cloths by Connie</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaskeptics.com/2011/06/08/applying-skepticism-norwex-microfiber-cloths/#comment-1241</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Connie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 03:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I must ask, with Robert James providing links to Norwex&#039;s test results, has anyone changed their mind on these cloths?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must ask, with Robert James providing links to Norwex&#8217;s test results, has anyone changed their mind on these cloths?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Applying Skepticism: Norwex Microfiber Cloths by Aaron Langworthy</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaskeptics.com/2011/06/08/applying-skepticism-norwex-microfiber-cloths/#comment-1231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Langworthy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 15:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone mentioned the test the shows that the cloths don&#039;t leave protein behind but that doesn&#039;t prove bacteria is removed.  I did some research and found that protein is 10-100 times smaller than bacteria.  So though I don&#039;t want to believe these things could work (though my wife does) it appears they do at least pick up bacteria and smaller particles.  I would simply love a news outlet to do some real scientific tests and comparisons because it just doesn&#039;t seem like it could work nearly as well as chemicals designed to destroy bacteria and viruses (though I don&#039;t think norwex claims any ability to kill viruses, the microfiber does at least pick them up).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone mentioned the test the shows that the cloths don&#8217;t leave protein behind but that doesn&#8217;t prove bacteria is removed.  I did some research and found that protein is 10-100 times smaller than bacteria.  So though I don&#8217;t want to believe these things could work (though my wife does) it appears they do at least pick up bacteria and smaller particles.  I would simply love a news outlet to do some real scientific tests and comparisons because it just doesn&#8217;t seem like it could work nearly as well as chemicals designed to destroy bacteria and viruses (though I don&#8217;t think norwex claims any ability to kill viruses, the microfiber does at least pick them up).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Applying Skepticism: Norwex Microfiber Cloths by Connie</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaskeptics.com/2011/06/08/applying-skepticism-norwex-microfiber-cloths/#comment-1227</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Connie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 19:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just want to say we all eat food, therefore we are all putting ourselves at risk for bacteria.  I am not saying I am pro or con for the cleaning cloths, I&#039;m just pointing out there is always a risk of exposure to bacteria.  I did recently buy one of the enviro cloths and some of the body cloths.  Will I use them to clean up chicken, probably not, since I really prefer not to chop up chicken and choose to put it from the package into the slow cooker (and I put any utensils used with the raw meat into a hot cycle dishwasher).  This is the same process I follow with any raw meat.  Will I use the body cloths for my face...definitely.  I think even though they cloths claim something, and it could be true, I&#039;d prefer to stick with my normal ways of doing things.  Isopropal alcohol, hydrogen peroxide and vinegar are all great cleaning products that are safe for cleaning and completely overlooked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to say we all eat food, therefore we are all putting ourselves at risk for bacteria.  I am not saying I am pro or con for the cleaning cloths, I&#8217;m just pointing out there is always a risk of exposure to bacteria.  I did recently buy one of the enviro cloths and some of the body cloths.  Will I use them to clean up chicken, probably not, since I really prefer not to chop up chicken and choose to put it from the package into the slow cooker (and I put any utensils used with the raw meat into a hot cycle dishwasher).  This is the same process I follow with any raw meat.  Will I use the body cloths for my face&#8230;definitely.  I think even though they cloths claim something, and it could be true, I&#8217;d prefer to stick with my normal ways of doing things.  Isopropal alcohol, hydrogen peroxide and vinegar are all great cleaning products that are safe for cleaning and completely overlooked.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Applying Skepticism: Norwex Microfiber Cloths by Joanie Smoters</title>
		<link>http://minnesotaskeptics.com/2011/06/08/applying-skepticism-norwex-microfiber-cloths/#comment-1211</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joanie Smoters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Editor&#039;s note: I debated posting this comment because it is somewhat off topic and seems to be an less than skeptical endorsement for ENJO, but in the beginning the person started asking some good skeptical questions.&lt;/em&gt;

Thank you for sharing that you saw some red flags in the Norwex website. I researched them a few years back and found some other red flags that concerned me...

Odour Eliminator is a popular Norwex product. I copied this directly from the norwex sites....

&quot;Norwex Odour Eliminator is a non-chemical way of dealing with tough and unpleasant odours from perspiration, mildew, smoke, urine, vomit and garbage.  Excellent for use in washrooms, garbage cans/bins, lockers, changing rooms, etc.   
How it Works
Odour Eliminator contains naturally occurring enzymes that actually eat away at the organic matter causing offensive odours, leaving a fresh and clean scent.&quot;

Now please read the above info again.... notice a huge contradiction here!! Norwex claims to remove 99% of bacteria, protein, etc from the surfaces in your home.... but in the odour elimnator explaination it says that how it works is the enzymes eat away at the organic matter that causes offensive odours like urine, vomit and garbage.... So the only way the odour eliminator works is if the Norwex cleaning system leaves organic mater behind!!!! Yuck! That doesn&#039;t seem really clean to me! 

The fact that they even have an odour eliminator concerns me... if after you clean your bathroom or garbage can with Norwex and there are still smells of urine &amp; vomit, its not really clean! 

So how can they claim to remove 99% of bateria, protein, etc. I found the answer also in the Norwex websites....

&quot;So how can I santize things like change tables and cutting boards?
The best way to sanitize hard, smooth surfaces is to do a final wipe with a spray of wate and a damp Antibac Enviro Cloth - which removes the bacteria (this will remove more that 99.9% of the bacteria, which is as good as, or better than sanitizing with any chemical.  Furthermore, it does not result in any bacteria becoming resistant to chemicals, nor does it prevent good bacteria from coming back).  For things like cutting boards or more porous surfaces - flood with straight white vinegar and let it sit for a few minutes, or rub with salt and ½ lemon for a couple of minutes.  Or, of course the is the old diluted bleach.&quot;

... They are actually advising you to use bleach on your babies change table when they promote non chemical cleaning. You will also note that the Norwex websites and what the Norwex consultants often say is.... &#039;cleaning of hard non porous surfaces&#039;..... reality is very few surfaces are truly non porous. So they are not lying when they say that they are remove 99% from the hard non porous surfaces.... but the problem is most of the surfaces we clean have micropores where the &#039;organic matter&#039; gets left behind. This can cause smells stains and more bacteria to grow. 

I tried out many different healthier cleaning options in my search for the best one. What I found was that many of the microfiber cloths available were basically the same... yes they vary in quality and some have gimics like silver in them... but all still microfibers. 

Then I found one that i have been very impressed with. It is different. You have probably heard of it. It&#039;s called ENJO. Yes they do carry microfiber cloths. But these are not their cleaning cloths, they are mainly just used for drying and shining. 

What makes ENJO special is their ENJO cleaning fibers, mostly found in their cleaning gloves. This special fiber is very different than your classic microfiber because it cleans out the pores of the surface... when the consultant at the demonstration I was at said this it really caught my attention, because that seemed to be the issue with microfiber cleaning cloths. (As I showed above with the info I copied from the Norwex sites).

So I tried out ENJO (still with much skepticism)... I was very impressed... the consultant was right - they were very different. These fuzzy mitts removed stains and smells that my harsh chemicals or microfiber cloths couldn&#039;t. This included urine smell from an old bathroom, garbage smell from a plastic garbage can (we used to have to bleach it), build up in my tubs, a film that I had on my hard wood floors... one thing that really got me when I was first trying ENJO was the old chemicals that I was pulling off of my tub, floors, sinks, etc. you could see and smell it! The consultant explained that that was residue from my old cleaning chemicals stuck in the pores of the surface and the ENJO fibres were pulling it all out with just water!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Editor&#8217;s note: I debated posting this comment because it is somewhat off topic and seems to be an less than skeptical endorsement for ENJO, but in the beginning the person started asking some good skeptical questions.</em></p>
<p>Thank you for sharing that you saw some red flags in the Norwex website. I researched them a few years back and found some other red flags that concerned me&#8230;</p>
<p>Odour Eliminator is a popular Norwex product. I copied this directly from the norwex sites&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Norwex Odour Eliminator is a non-chemical way of dealing with tough and unpleasant odours from perspiration, mildew, smoke, urine, vomit and garbage.  Excellent for use in washrooms, garbage cans/bins, lockers, changing rooms, etc.   <br />
How it Works<br />
Odour Eliminator contains naturally occurring enzymes that actually eat away at the organic matter causing offensive odours, leaving a fresh and clean scent.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now please read the above info again&#8230;. notice a huge contradiction here!! Norwex claims to remove 99% of bacteria, protein, etc from the surfaces in your home&#8230;. but in the odour elimnator explaination it says that how it works is the enzymes eat away at the organic matter that causes offensive odours like urine, vomit and garbage&#8230;. So the only way the odour eliminator works is if the Norwex cleaning system leaves organic mater behind!!!! Yuck! That doesn&#8217;t seem really clean to me! </p>
<p>The fact that they even have an odour eliminator concerns me&#8230; if after you clean your bathroom or garbage can with Norwex and there are still smells of urine &amp; vomit, its not really clean! </p>
<p>So how can they claim to remove 99% of bateria, protein, etc. I found the answer also in the Norwex websites&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;So how can I santize things like change tables and cutting boards?<br />
The best way to sanitize hard, smooth surfaces is to do a final wipe with a spray of wate and a damp Antibac Enviro Cloth &#8211; which removes the bacteria (this will remove more that 99.9% of the bacteria, which is as good as, or better than sanitizing with any chemical.  Furthermore, it does not result in any bacteria becoming resistant to chemicals, nor does it prevent good bacteria from coming back).  For things like cutting boards or more porous surfaces &#8211; flood with straight white vinegar and let it sit for a few minutes, or rub with salt and ½ lemon for a couple of minutes.  Or, of course the is the old diluted bleach.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; They are actually advising you to use bleach on your babies change table when they promote non chemical cleaning. You will also note that the Norwex websites and what the Norwex consultants often say is&#8230;. &#8216;cleaning of hard non porous surfaces&#8217;&#8230;.. reality is very few surfaces are truly non porous. So they are not lying when they say that they are remove 99% from the hard non porous surfaces&#8230;. but the problem is most of the surfaces we clean have micropores where the &#8216;organic matter&#8217; gets left behind. This can cause smells stains and more bacteria to grow. </p>
<p>I tried out many different healthier cleaning options in my search for the best one. What I found was that many of the microfiber cloths available were basically the same&#8230; yes they vary in quality and some have gimics like silver in them&#8230; but all still microfibers. </p>
<p>Then I found one that i have been very impressed with. It is different. You have probably heard of it. It&#8217;s called ENJO. Yes they do carry microfiber cloths. But these are not their cleaning cloths, they are mainly just used for drying and shining. </p>
<p>What makes ENJO special is their ENJO cleaning fibers, mostly found in their cleaning gloves. This special fiber is very different than your classic microfiber because it cleans out the pores of the surface&#8230; when the consultant at the demonstration I was at said this it really caught my attention, because that seemed to be the issue with microfiber cleaning cloths. (As I showed above with the info I copied from the Norwex sites).</p>
<p>So I tried out ENJO (still with much skepticism)&#8230; I was very impressed&#8230; the consultant was right &#8211; they were very different. These fuzzy mitts removed stains and smells that my harsh chemicals or microfiber cloths couldn&#8217;t. This included urine smell from an old bathroom, garbage smell from a plastic garbage can (we used to have to bleach it), build up in my tubs, a film that I had on my hard wood floors&#8230; one thing that really got me when I was first trying ENJO was the old chemicals that I was pulling off of my tub, floors, sinks, etc. you could see and smell it! The consultant explained that that was residue from my old cleaning chemicals stuck in the pores of the surface and the ENJO fibres were pulling it all out with just water!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Applying Skepticism: Norwex Microfiber Cloths by Robert James</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2013 21:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the people out there asking for test results, I Googled &quot;Norwex Efficacy&quot; and came across this link: http://resources.norwexcs.com/test_results/SurfaceCleaningEfficacy2.pdf. If you back up the url a little you get this link: http://resources.norwexcs.com/test_results/.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the people out there asking for test results, I Googled &#8220;Norwex Efficacy&#8221; and came across this link: <a href="http://resources.norwexcs.com/test_results/SurfaceCleaningEfficacy2.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://resources.norwexcs.com/test_results/SurfaceCleaningEfficacy2.pdf</a>. If you back up the url a little you get this link: <a href="http://resources.norwexcs.com/test_results/" rel="nofollow">http://resources.norwexcs.com/test_results/</a>.</p>
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